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Learn a new skill. Get in shape. Find a nice project. Adopt and care for a animal that needs a home.

Grow a garden. There are tons of things you can be doing in your life to improve it and make it more rewarding than spending time and energy on someone who thinks you are beneath them.

They feel that way about guys who are average or above average attractiveness. Fairly recent phenomenon of the Internet opens women to a lot more attention and validation than previous generations.

This combined with more sex outside marriage, guys are willing to have casual sex a few points down say 8 will have one night stand with a 5 but wouldn't consider a relationship , and many women have an inflated sense of how attractive they actually are.

I had sex with a so I must be that, then as they get older they realize they can no longer attract those guys and switch lanes looking for a provider and "settle".

Source:- 5'5" Asian Indian man and I am average looking. Women everywhere, East or West, ignore you no matter what. Biologically it makes perfect sense: women want the best genes for their limited and historically dangerous breeding cycles, men just want a fertile vessel to dump his load in, men will take what they can get as many as they can get.

Not a men's right issue, but a significant social issue. A woman marrying 'down' will take it out on the poor sod.

If you want a real life example of this. Recently Tobiscus - a youtube personality was accused of rape.

Now I'm not going to comment on the validity of that particular accusation - but when it happened about a dozen female youtube personalities came out and commented on both sides of the issue.

The large theme between all of them was that they all slept with him - knew the others were sleeping with them - and none of them "really cared" - to the extent one would expect in a monogamous relationship.

I was actually really shocked when I watched and listened to them discuss it openly like it was no big deal. They didn't care that they had to share him - or not so much that they ended the relationships right away.

A lot of them ended similarly in that the women "moved on" when he wouldn't settle down - but he basically has his pick of the "youtube" litter - an just about any number he wants - he also has groupies and regular ONS hookups - that these women also knew about.

Further, I shared it with a female friend and asked her her perspective - on the "harem" not phrasing it that way.

I asked her if that was normal in her life - she didn't understand the question - so I specifically phrased it to put her in the same position of sharing.

It sort of finally clicked when she realized she would have to "share" - and started to suggest that she'd never tolerate it, but it took a good analogies and hypothetical to get her there.

I am by no means a Redpiller - but from my observations of this particular incident - there is something of a "tolerance". It wasn't the starting or end conclusion of my female friend that fascinated me - but how "long" it took her to get from one position to the other.

Then I know girls who would absolutely be turned off by even the hint - but the "compromising" ones are definitely more common that I had realized.

Sex can be rented, and women's quality nowadays leaves a lot to be desired. Most hot girls fuck around a lot in their 20s. Think about how easy it is for them to do.

Men don't see this because they have trouble attaching "dirty" acts to a beautiful face. I think an exception might be a girl who stays with the same guy she lost her virginity to.

But from what I've seen, once they start playing it fast and loose in college usually , they just start hopping from guy to guy.

They might still date a guy, but they'll cheat behind his back in a heartbeat if it serves their fragile ego.

It's like they're a broken mirror and every guy who bangs them just smashes them into smaller pieces, making reassembly that much harder. They don't know who they are outside of the men they fuck, and it psychologically damages them, especially because they know that day by day their biological clock is ticking.

That's whats happening right now though. That's why so many stories are told of sex petering off after marriage and why the woman treats the husband like shit.

They can't get their prince charming so they get the guy who will be there and they lash out with their regret. Of course it's happening now.

Boomers had everything served right to them, which bred entitlement. Gen Y is 3rd-generation entitled.

So many women believe they deserve George Clooney it's absurd. So yeah, late gen X to gen Y women are disabused, disappointed, and all in all butt-hurt about men.

I wish sarcasm wasn't so hard to pick up in written form. Sorry i made you explain it. Now that i look back on it, it made me laugh.

A great deal of the society can be explained by the fact that men are not attractive to women but women are to men. That's why women are the better-off gender, for example.

No, women will try and lock down an attractive man with a kid. Once they realize he's gone for good, they marry their 'soulmate' from high school and take it out on the poor sod.

But I think there's a category of honest, if misled, and to be honest rather stupid, women who refuse the dishonesty of 'oops' pregnancy, but still think they deserve in a man a lot more than they bring as a women.

Honest but entitled feminists produce barren spinsters and declining birth rates. Also, lonely old men. I was speaking of my niece, who at 18 years old stopped taking her BC because if she was pregnant, her boyfriend wouldn't leave her.

She got pregnant, he still left. Two years later she's dating a guy she constantly whines about and her cousin takes care of her kid. Agree or not with the underlying assumption, their model has good descriptive value which proves nothing, BTW.

Sorry, but your argument has little merit, unless you imply a huge innate psychological difference between men and women. He's my future husband.

All he's got to do is come here and see how awesome I am. The difference is most women can at one time or another get sex from a hot guy simply be spreading her legs wide enough, most men have to settle for porn, which we know is fake.

The women though might get sex from alphas now and then but most women lack the goods to "seal the deal" and keep him, leaving them wanting and hateful, while more and more men are discovering they don't need women at all.

They are way average, just like most of amateur porn is. Ironically male pornstars are way out of the Bell curve. Sure you can sort rgonewild for bestof last year.

But that is not what you want or do. You want something novel, different today. You want a random reasonably attractive skank who is into it.

I am not aware of being exposed to images of amateur porn, and thus can't comment on your assertions. And these women are sadly far from average.

Also, many women's fantasy is that an atractive male actually wants to have sex with them. Actually we do: one of the main causes of ED in young men is porn abuse.

When you're used to masturbating to 10 it's really hard to get it up for a 6. Late answer: we are not exposed to porn, you more or less have to look for it; granted, it's not hard, but still, it's an active process, not passive exposure.

You know I don't understand how this isn't a more systemic concern in "modern" society, particularly among women. Most create an elaborate illusion on a daily basis for the sole purpose of enticing men, I'm not complaining but it's disingenuous and it explains A LOT of the issues women face mentally.

I wouldn't feel good about myself either if I would be ashamed to go into the mall without first disguising my "defects".

I heard a stat the other day that there are slightly more single people than married people in the US. If women think that about men, that stat isn't going to change.

What the hell is the point of sitting across the Starbucks table from my 99th thick, chunky housewifey looking lady. I'm 32 now. It amazes me how many of these women in their late 20s that there are.

Society treats women like they're these noble, special, magical creatures, but the reality is that most of them aren't worth 5 minutes of your time.

And you're called a misogynist if you see reality for what it is. All you need to know is right here. If it makes anyone feel better, these women will mostly end up bitter and angry because the relationships with elite men they felt they deserved never materialized.

I'm still surprised by the inability to do grade school math. Has anyone played musical chairs?

If 50 people are playing for 10 chairs, that means most people end up empty handed. The gender ratios in the real world are , and SMV follows a bell curve distribution.

If women want to chase the most elite 10 men, have at it. But of those 10 men, 5 will do nothing but play the field. Of the other 5, they may for LTRs but only with truly exceptional women not the average woman.

Only 2. Sounds like a waste of time to me. I do my own thing and don't worry about what women think of me. That's good advice for individual men.

Think about the implications of that for a moment. You think our genetics got us this far without being selective? Just hope she's selecting for the right traits.

I'm sure it has a pragmatic evolutionary purpose. But if we really want fairness and justice, we might have to lose some of our instinct driven behaviors.

If not lose, at least be aware of so people can consciously decide if they want to be civilized or not.

Society depends on 'beta' males to keep it running. Smart people with college degrees who work as engineers, scientists, technicians, medical technologists, etc.

Those men are mostly invisible to women because women are busy chasing musicians, gym rats, bad boys, drug dealers, actors, etc.

The women may line those college educated engineers up as BB for when they are in their 30s, but they are definitely not the woman's first choice.

The men women pursue are not the ones who are out curing Alzheimer's disease, or ending world hunger or inventing renewable energy. Women are out fucking white rappers and guys in underwear ads.

At which point feminists will hate you because why arent more women at the top PatriarchyInAction. Not every man can achieve both of those things due to genetics, time constraints, etc.

Lots of men would rather invest their time, money, energy, etc into working on their own minds, their pets, their careers, their hobbies, etc.

Given the choice between investing my time and money in inner peace, good health, good friendships, etc. I'm not sure I did that.

Of the guys who can, for some it is easy and for some it is a lot of work. Its a good suggestion but far from a solution. Extreme entitlement?

How is it entitled to not want to be considered unattractive by the opposite sex? Good luck achieving that goal. You're not factoring in the other issues.

It doesn't account for women marrying for social reasons, money or people marrying due to having kids together.

I'm not too surprised by this. Most women look for relationships and most don't feel comfortable doing so in these apps.

So they'll only message the really hot dudes. I'm not surprised. And apps like these want people to only judge someone by looks so I don't think it's indicative of anything really.

Depends on your age really. People in the age like myself don't take them seriously too much. I'm not really looking to get into a relationship with someone on there.

Maybe if someone really catches my eye id actually try with a message or something. Once you get to your late 20s and beyond I would assume more people actively try to match up and not try to shoot for the stars on these things.

Girls my age are totally picky on these things, I have seen girls do it and most say that they are really picky on these things.

So yeah they will only swipe for super hot guys, throw that Hail Mary out there with no consequences unlike going up to someone at a bar.

The same with guys but a lot of guys my age just use it to hook up so the standards are lower than the women's standards.

It's just kind of how the culture is and what an age group do. Swiping right and left doesn't define if a girl can find you attractive or not in real life.

Most of them who are young, have no intention of relationships. They have a "life plan" and don't want anything serious until about 30yr.

It's consequence free sex and validation many use it just to have dozens of men fawn over them. In fact most of them know about the other women and don't care and keep coming back time and time again.

You also don't have to be rich at all. I had no car at the time and low end job but still had half a dozen attractive university age women from those sites on rotation.

So long as youre "their type" they don't care. When it comes to tinder, does it really matter? You only see the people who swore right anyway, so you never waste your time.

I am pretty surprised that 1 in women swipe right on the average guy. I know lots o guys who use tinder and I used it myself and not all of us are super attractive.

But we got 3 to 7 matches a day if you swipe right on most people. I think when it comes to Okcupid I think it actually is Tinder's fault because Tinder started this sort of social standard of vanity and it's basis for one night stands and hookups has seeped into OKcupid, so it becomes even more difficult than it already is to find someone.

It also doesn't help that women have massive standards on Okcupid including how you start a conversation to them. I don't use it really anymore it way too disheartening because of how "judgey" they are on there.

The only time I actually judge someones profile harshly is when the first bit in their summary is just their labels like anarchic-feminist-demisexual-sapsiosexual-attackhhelicopter, You know that like it just proves to me that it is their only identity and they have no other substance to them.

I think the worst part is setting your profile to bisexual means you get flooded with those transgendered and gender fluid people as matches if you don't want them when the original term of Bisexual was you just like male and female, you can't really set that preference.

I don't like poly either from what I've seen it tends to be that one person has alot of power with in it as it is usually one woman circulating around a lot of men she likes.

No it's not I actually felt depressed because since there is more men than women on there and a large majority of them are only on there for sexual reasons, it distorts the view of the women and if they feel like that's all you want immediate shut down of contact, to steal a word from feminists it's quite a toxic environment.

When I used to use those sites, I'd just avoid the entitled little snowflakes who had whole laundry lists of "shalts and shalt nots," even when they messaged me.

The modern female is an ugly beast even when she aint. I saw this Discovery Channel Documentary on sex.

In it they claimed some scientific studies found the men and women end up with people of similar attractiveness, on average. I think that's probably true.

So when I see data like this from dating websites, it makes me think that what we're seeing is an artifact of the online dating environment.

I imagine there is some element of competition that is either removed or hidden while using online dating sites that skews expectations.

This study on Y chromosomes shows that men have always been less attractive than women. If you could find no studies, then that's probably a lack of your ability to search.

You can watch the doc here for relevant citations:. Five women were consistently reproducing for every one point five men or a 3 to 10 ratio.

See how far back that time scale goes? I'm familiar with this statistics, I just don't see how it translates into 'attractiveness' within the context of dating sites like okcupid or tinder.

While the figure does show that the size of the female portion of our ancestral population is much larger than the male portion, it doesn't offer an explanation as to why.

Attributing it simply to 'attractiveness' even if in the most general sense isn't particularly useful or insightful. But you're ignoring the correlation of the data.

Which is almost perfect. Two dating sites data are identical. Genetic evidence going back over 50k years, near perfect match.

Pretty fucking insightful and useful. You've provided nothing but questions and doubt with zero other explanations for the data and the correlations.

I provided nothing but questions and doubt because I doubted the validity of your statement within the context of the paper.

Given I couldn't figure out how you drew your conclusions from the paper, rather than calling you wrong, I sought to understand.

Now that I have prodded and you replied, I am still not convinced the argument your provide is supported by the paper.

I feel your assertion is too strong for what the paper is capable of supporting. It seems clear to me that societal and environmental factors beyond simply "attractiveness" are at play here.

In fact, the paper goes into detail about possible explanations, specifically with regards to the genetic bottleneck see the Discussion section of the paper.

I'm not an expert. So I'm not in the business of making up the stories. I am in the business of evaluating whether stories seem plausible or not from the data given.

I have substantial experience in this in real life and I'm pretty good at. And I don't think your story has enough support.

I am not saying it isn't true, just that I don't think this paper has enough for you to draw the conclusion you are drawing.

You are entitled to disagree. They must have been cut when chopped it up into pieces for the website. Not that they would give full citations. But they give the researchers names and institutions, so you can look over their publication list.

Come on. I'm working to prove my point to you. You gotta put some effort in to this debate. I'm not being selfish, I just not going to put effort into something of small consequence.

I provided my citation: the documentary. If you are not satisfied with it, that's on you to read deeper into the literature to find original sources.

This is also what I think. Why I think it's the case is that a man's attractiveness doesn't translate well to online profiles.

Profiles are not people. A woman's evolutionary fitness can more readily be ascertained visually than a man's. A man has to demonstrate his fitness, which is hard to do on a dating profile.

Male attractiveness comes from social status, which is something that is very difficult to measure through 5 pictures. This is why I think gathering data from dating patterns within a bar however that could actually be done, I don't know would be more representative of the actual dating behaviours of the sexes.

Or women who actually know the men that they are rating. The crazy thing is Our tech team literally had to help people restart their modems every week.

Meanwhile we would get hit with DDOS attacks, spam attacks, spam filters, vendors disappearing, every day. Coinbase has 50 times this problem.

I'm betting it's spam. Spam is very hard to deal with and getting false-flagged is easy. If you have 20 referrals If anyone complained to Coinbase And worse, if one of those referrals threatened to sue for any reason The fact of the matter is when you shut down peoples accounts that have monetary assists in them you are playing a game by not telling them why.

People are going to hound the shit out of a company who is holding their funds. It's one way to make the spam problem worse.

They are one of the most insanely heavy handed. They love to play games, and the prizes they hand out are fines and draconian regulation.

That said, I posted earlier that I suspect a lot of the people who have locked accounts have them locked for a very valid ToS violation, and these people are intentionally playing dumb about this.

They've onboarded billions and billions of dollars into the bitcoin ecosystem and market cap without being the slightest bit scammy or incompetent.

WTF have you done? Same, they won't even tell me why. Luckily at the time I had moved all of my coins. I have heard horror stories of people not being able to get to thousands of dollars worth of coins or USD because of their account being locked and super unhelpful customer service.

Yeah, no. Kraken and Bittrex from now on. Kraken verified me to level 3, 3 hours after registering. The reason they need you to use a "new email", is because they use AWS servers to send mail.

Gmail, curiously, has no problem with Coinbase, and allows these servers to continue sending mail even if they are blackholed on many, many lists.

Sign up with a Gmail email account and all will be forgiven. I thought we were all supposed to be serverless and cloudy now.

Where are you supposed to send mail from? When I last dealt with AWS is was bad practice. There are services that you can use to send out emails via API calls.

I've sent them two support emails without even a confirmation back. Two weeks ago. Clams were given out per qualifying address. Coinbase had everybody's coins in fewer than one address per customer.

How many Clams was each person supposed to get? They're at least the slightest bit incompetent. Otherwise I wouldn't have been locked out of my account for a month with no response from their CS.

Have you tried their support ticket system? It's infuriating. You submit a ticket. They send an email that someone is working on the issue.

Then, a couple days later, they send another email that they're closing your ticket but you can respond to the email if you still need help.

If you respond you get an automated message that the email address you just responded to is never checked. They recommend submitting a ticket. The issues are mainly due to the low levels of technical literacy in the general population.

I second that Coinbase are a vital part of the cryptocurrency ecosystem. They've spent countless hours making sure their UX design is top notch and easy to understand.

It's thanks to them that the value has risen so much. They lend credibility to the endeavour when a lot of other exchanges give people the bare minimum in terms of service.

Absolutely nailed it. Without exchanges working hard to support adoption all crypto's would remain in the realm of techies, and mass adoption would never be a reality ultimately leading to a failure of the entire ecosystem.

Coinbase deserves credit. Day after day on this sub and others we have people outright lying about coinbase, especially around it's insurance for the coins and FDIC coverage for fiat.

It seems a lot of people have no problem pretending neither exist and just continue to say how dangerous the place is to use.

I contacted support today about their ridiculously high fees on BTC transfer and they responded within 2 hours. And what did they say about that?

I'm pretty to new to all of this and don't understand why it is so expensive? It's not a percentage cost. Sending digital currency between Coinbase wallets is free.

I also understand the whole miner fees and everything but right now transaction at clearing at 30cent So yeah, in the grand scheme of things you guys developed a nice environment and an awesome website and everything but I think now its the time to code an advanced user option and let choose some more advanced user the fees they want.

I don't mind not being in the next block and wait a couple hours or days for a transaction if the option is given to me. I know that sending money via coinbase wallet is free but with you I don't own my private key, you do Thank you for the wonderful suggestion.

I contacted them about a year ago concerning not being able to re-add my debit card to my account. I contacted them about 10 times within a month.

They never emailed me back. They can suck a dick. I would say that they answer the easy questions that they can brush off aside like mine and complicated problems like yours get passed from one person to another until it just falls through the cracks It sad to say but a lot of exchange have no reputation to defend like big corporations, so they act like that and they are not really held accountable for their lack of support There is so few of them that they can and will do it, here in Canada I can buy safely from Cadrigacx, Coinbase and Kraken I believe Sucks to say but it was less than two hours I work with multiple fortune companies that are easier to deal with than coinbase on any given day of the week.

Their reputation will be their downfall if that is the only concern they have when dealing with the public.

That makes their ignorant stance even worse, once Gdax or a newer alternative gain traction coinbase will fall to the wayside. As far as I was aware it was a partnership to bring exposure to Gdax, I could be misinformed about this which would render my last comment incorrect.

But you get the idea here, if Kraken was as widely used as coinbase is do you think coinbase would have the stability that kraken does?

Basically flipping the roles ya know. If you have the right beta phase, it would scale up properly I don't think this would be a problem.

I think most of the people of starts exchange have no idea what they are getting into. But in with cloud computing there is no reason to have downtime when you can do instant resources scaling with Amazon Cloud.

With bitcoin they need to be able to manage the unpredictable because that's what every single market on the planet is and bitcoin is no different to some extend.

Circle was an awesome service and when they "Partnered" with Coinbase you would think that Coinbase would had been smart enough to dig into their tech and how they do things transaction wise People get phished, give out every single friggen bit of info humanly possible to a phishing site, get hacked and then come on reddit to complain about how much exchanges suck.

If you get phished on coinbase you seriously need to learn how to use the internet. You have to make huge mistake after huge mistake in a tiny time frame in order to get cleaned out.

What if they created a waiting list for new account openings instead of having the worst possible customer support team?

Dealing with bank wires is an absolute nightmare with them. Has anybody who held an account at Coinbase had better luck with Kraken, Poloniex, or another big name exchange?

They just ignored it. Join to us, we will make a lot of noise about it. But they effectively still turn down business when your wires are being rejected by them or your funds get frozen for no apparent reason.

You can't trade if they don't process your fiat. I've been using coin as for the past 3 months and I love it. Their support takes time but they are very helpful.

I give them the benefit of the doubt that they're busy as fuck right now but it's hard to sometimes. You think buying Bitcoin is easy? Coinbase might be one of the only legit options available to me With their current level of nonexistent customer service they will have no chance to compete in this market place in the long term.

Contacted them yesterday. Have not heard back from them since. With the kind of money that is at stake this is simply unacceptable.

A phone hotline is a must, an automated chatbot simply doesn't cut it. I pulled all my funds out. Plenty of competitors to chose from.

And definitely destroy Coinbase. Good luck! My Buy option got disabled and I contacted them two weeks ago, with more subseequent information through the next few days.

I haven't gotten any human response. Worry not. I can confirm. Last week I set up a Gemini account, but I was still hesistant. Just yesterday I decided to verify my ID, and it got verified in a couple hours.

Today I decided to wire transfer to set up my bank account be careful, wire transfers are finicky, even if not , and my account got verified in an hour and a half.

I am thinking about Gemini right now. I opened an account last week, and delayed on submitting my ID. Then yesterday I submitted my ID, and they verified it within hours.

Now I just have to connect my bank account, but I'm nervous because they do bank wires, and bank wires can get lost, although they are faster than ACH.

New to bicoin here. I was planning to use coinbase to buy some, changed my mind after reading all the comments on coinbase.

What other options do I have? Don't listen to it. Don't send money or receive it from known bad addresses. Don't break their ToS like buying illegal shit with the money right off the exchange.

Coinbase is a legit company. The IRS audits them. They are a bank also, and have to go by US banking law. So if you want to use coinbase to buy drugs, launder money or other misc illegal thing, and I think weirdly porn dumb, i know then it's not for you.

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Never had a problem yet. I only use it to get money out though so maybe I am avoiding all the shit parts.

I even messaged their page and they just put me on "seen" status lol. CS is essential for me because I'm a clutz.

I'm glad at least Paxful responds to me in a timely manner. I recently joined Kraken. I'm standing in line at a wawa trying to buy a coffee and my debit card is being declined.

Thanks coinbase! It took them 4 weeks to even respond to my ticket. I sent clear screenshots of my confirmation from my bank and my Coinbase account for the relevant period and the assclown had the audacity to suggest maybe I spent it and forgot!

I bit my lip and kindly asked if I needed to send higher resolution screenshots and finally they said they were forwarding it to a specialist.

What was the btc price six weeks ago? They have so far stolen my money, and stole Bitcoin from me because I could buy more six weeks ago than I can today.

I'm not far from that. I assume they'll make it right, but their treatment of the situation is so ridiculously and offensively slow it's unreal. I feel like this should be a high priority issue for them.

If not lose, at least be aware of so people can consciously decide if they want to be civilized or not. Society depends on 'beta' males to keep it running.

Smart people with college degrees who work as engineers, scientists, technicians, medical technologists, etc.

Those men are mostly invisible to women because women are busy chasing musicians, gym rats, bad boys, drug dealers, actors, etc. The women may line those college educated engineers up as BB for when they are in their 30s, but they are definitely not the woman's first choice.

The men women pursue are not the ones who are out curing Alzheimer's disease, or ending world hunger or inventing renewable energy.

Women are out fucking white rappers and guys in underwear ads. At which point feminists will hate you because why arent more women at the top PatriarchyInAction.

Not every man can achieve both of those things due to genetics, time constraints, etc. Lots of men would rather invest their time, money, energy, etc into working on their own minds, their pets, their careers, their hobbies, etc.

Given the choice between investing my time and money in inner peace, good health, good friendships, etc. I'm not sure I did that.

Of the guys who can, for some it is easy and for some it is a lot of work. Its a good suggestion but far from a solution.

Extreme entitlement? How is it entitled to not want to be considered unattractive by the opposite sex? Good luck achieving that goal. You're not factoring in the other issues.

It doesn't account for women marrying for social reasons, money or people marrying due to having kids together. I'm not too surprised by this.

Most women look for relationships and most don't feel comfortable doing so in these apps. So they'll only message the really hot dudes.

I'm not surprised. And apps like these want people to only judge someone by looks so I don't think it's indicative of anything really.

Depends on your age really. People in the age like myself don't take them seriously too much. I'm not really looking to get into a relationship with someone on there.

Maybe if someone really catches my eye id actually try with a message or something. Once you get to your late 20s and beyond I would assume more people actively try to match up and not try to shoot for the stars on these things.

Girls my age are totally picky on these things, I have seen girls do it and most say that they are really picky on these things.

So yeah they will only swipe for super hot guys, throw that Hail Mary out there with no consequences unlike going up to someone at a bar.

The same with guys but a lot of guys my age just use it to hook up so the standards are lower than the women's standards. It's just kind of how the culture is and what an age group do.

Swiping right and left doesn't define if a girl can find you attractive or not in real life. Most of them who are young, have no intention of relationships.

They have a "life plan" and don't want anything serious until about 30yr. It's consequence free sex and validation many use it just to have dozens of men fawn over them.

In fact most of them know about the other women and don't care and keep coming back time and time again. You also don't have to be rich at all.

I had no car at the time and low end job but still had half a dozen attractive university age women from those sites on rotation. So long as youre "their type" they don't care.

When it comes to tinder, does it really matter? You only see the people who swore right anyway, so you never waste your time.

I am pretty surprised that 1 in women swipe right on the average guy. I know lots o guys who use tinder and I used it myself and not all of us are super attractive.

But we got 3 to 7 matches a day if you swipe right on most people. I think when it comes to Okcupid I think it actually is Tinder's fault because Tinder started this sort of social standard of vanity and it's basis for one night stands and hookups has seeped into OKcupid, so it becomes even more difficult than it already is to find someone.

It also doesn't help that women have massive standards on Okcupid including how you start a conversation to them. I don't use it really anymore it way too disheartening because of how "judgey" they are on there.

The only time I actually judge someones profile harshly is when the first bit in their summary is just their labels like anarchic-feminist-demisexual-sapsiosexual-attackhhelicopter, You know that like it just proves to me that it is their only identity and they have no other substance to them.

I think the worst part is setting your profile to bisexual means you get flooded with those transgendered and gender fluid people as matches if you don't want them when the original term of Bisexual was you just like male and female, you can't really set that preference.

I don't like poly either from what I've seen it tends to be that one person has alot of power with in it as it is usually one woman circulating around a lot of men she likes.

No it's not I actually felt depressed because since there is more men than women on there and a large majority of them are only on there for sexual reasons, it distorts the view of the women and if they feel like that's all you want immediate shut down of contact, to steal a word from feminists it's quite a toxic environment.

When I used to use those sites, I'd just avoid the entitled little snowflakes who had whole laundry lists of "shalts and shalt nots," even when they messaged me.

The modern female is an ugly beast even when she aint. I saw this Discovery Channel Documentary on sex. In it they claimed some scientific studies found the men and women end up with people of similar attractiveness, on average.

I think that's probably true. So when I see data like this from dating websites, it makes me think that what we're seeing is an artifact of the online dating environment.

I imagine there is some element of competition that is either removed or hidden while using online dating sites that skews expectations.

This study on Y chromosomes shows that men have always been less attractive than women. If you could find no studies, then that's probably a lack of your ability to search.

You can watch the doc here for relevant citations:. Five women were consistently reproducing for every one point five men or a 3 to 10 ratio.

See how far back that time scale goes? I'm familiar with this statistics, I just don't see how it translates into 'attractiveness' within the context of dating sites like okcupid or tinder.

While the figure does show that the size of the female portion of our ancestral population is much larger than the male portion, it doesn't offer an explanation as to why.

Attributing it simply to 'attractiveness' even if in the most general sense isn't particularly useful or insightful. But you're ignoring the correlation of the data.

Which is almost perfect. Two dating sites data are identical. Genetic evidence going back over 50k years, near perfect match.

Pretty fucking insightful and useful. You've provided nothing but questions and doubt with zero other explanations for the data and the correlations.

I provided nothing but questions and doubt because I doubted the validity of your statement within the context of the paper.

Given I couldn't figure out how you drew your conclusions from the paper, rather than calling you wrong, I sought to understand. Now that I have prodded and you replied, I am still not convinced the argument your provide is supported by the paper.

I feel your assertion is too strong for what the paper is capable of supporting. It seems clear to me that societal and environmental factors beyond simply "attractiveness" are at play here.

In fact, the paper goes into detail about possible explanations, specifically with regards to the genetic bottleneck see the Discussion section of the paper.

I'm not an expert. So I'm not in the business of making up the stories. I am in the business of evaluating whether stories seem plausible or not from the data given.

I have substantial experience in this in real life and I'm pretty good at. And I don't think your story has enough support.

I am not saying it isn't true, just that I don't think this paper has enough for you to draw the conclusion you are drawing. You are entitled to disagree.

They must have been cut when chopped it up into pieces for the website. Not that they would give full citations. But they give the researchers names and institutions, so you can look over their publication list.

Come on. I'm working to prove my point to you. You gotta put some effort in to this debate. I'm not being selfish, I just not going to put effort into something of small consequence.

I provided my citation: the documentary. If you are not satisfied with it, that's on you to read deeper into the literature to find original sources.

This is also what I think. Why I think it's the case is that a man's attractiveness doesn't translate well to online profiles.

Profiles are not people. A woman's evolutionary fitness can more readily be ascertained visually than a man's.

A man has to demonstrate his fitness, which is hard to do on a dating profile. Male attractiveness comes from social status, which is something that is very difficult to measure through 5 pictures.

This is why I think gathering data from dating patterns within a bar however that could actually be done, I don't know would be more representative of the actual dating behaviours of the sexes.

Or women who actually know the men that they are rating. I'm pretty average looking, but my ex acted like I was a She was way out of my range, too, if we're going on looks alone.

When I'm rock climbing, I get female attention that I'm not normally used to. Well I think it has a little to do with apparel.

Women generally outright sexualize themselves with liberal cuts and skin tight clothing. Most men do not do that, perhaps that will change though.

This data is a bit misleading, because while women rate men as less attractive on average, they message men at a lower attractiveness level than men message women.

Reading this data, I think the statistics show that women are just bad at rating average attractiveness, but that looks are less important to them than men.

Men on the other hand make a sport out of rating women. Women see different traits in men, such as how they dress, the quality of their clothes, etc.

Also, for pics, women are just better than men at being in pictures. My ex had practiced for years to perfect poses, and as soon as a camera came out, she could look like a model in a pic, but appear to not be trying.

In pics of us together, I would sometimes wonder why she was with me. IRL we were similar in attractiveness, but she shined in pics. I'm just pointing out that a woman might not be settling dating someone of lesser than average attractiveness.

It just depends on what her priorities are. I've dated less attractive girls before because they were awesome to do things with, and attractiveness is even one of my priorities.

Appearance is very important to women. That's why their dating profile pictures are so meticulously chosen and they create a photographic image of themselves that they themselves can't match.

The data is pretty clear when you combine both studies. Women will settle for an average guy and that's about it.

Make a fake tinder account and put up a few "douchebag" selfies of some guy with ripped abs and blue eyes as the main pic.

Dont mention anything else other than "looking to meet a nice girl ; ". The amount of matches and messages you get will be quite telling.

Completely irrelevant, considering that women do not send out messages at rates remotely close to men. They don't have to. Just like the vast majority of women do not have to approach men in real life.

Women are sought after. And it's actually amplified in online dating. Women seem less shallow because they have a huge pile of other criteria for men, making looks seem smaller in comparison.

Women do that too, just not as overtly. Keeping up the appearance of women being the "non-shallow gender" is pretty damn important to them and lots of men.

No it's a game they all play. I've seen it many times. They pull out Tinder and mock men while out at parties. I've had my own with coinbase.

Over time they get worked out. Just be patient. It sucks to miss out on buying and selling opportunities but this is what we have to work with for now.

Blame the powers that be for making it so difficult to buy Bitcoin. That's the real problem. Although you'll have to patiently wait for them to strip out your BCH and sell it somewhere else I tried switching to Gemini 3 months ago but my account is still pending verification.

I've sent 3 or 4 emails in that time asking for info and gotten 0 response. I know Coinbase's support is far from perfect, but in my admittedly limited experience, Gemini's is totally nonexistent.

I get annoying prompts to get the app, but I've been able to log in with text messages for the second factor. Can confirm.

Some random guy from Norway that just bought some bitcoin out of curiosity on coinbase. I recently had some problem my own fault and sent them a message.

They took a few days to reply and then fixed by problem. No complaints at all. The customer support was just fine for me. Come to rest with this as well.

Now i feel a bit sorry for them. Probably not the most relaxing place to work atm. But is there any reason they are the only one?

Why doesn't exchanges like bitstamp, bitfinex etc etc make it as easy as coinbase? Or did coinbase just do the hardwork to make that happen?

As a norwegian, it's the only exchange i can buy from using my debit card other than localbitcoins where the price is much higher as you buy from private people.

I dunno but their customer service is atrocious. My deposit are disabled and support is taking their fuckin time fixing it. They told me it was fixed but it's not.

I agree. In May the turnaround time for customer service was like days. But this month weeks ago my Buys and deposits were disabled and I've been emailling them for over two weeks and they still have given no response.

I don't know whether they just haven't gotten to my issue or if it slipped through the cracks completely. Yeah when I first emailed them about my deposits being disabled it took almost a month for them to respond.

They responded that they fixed the problem but my deposits are still disabled. I emailed them again 2 weeks ago telling them as much and they still haven't responded.

I've tried email, reddit, facebook, and twitter. It really is horrible. Luckily I have no coin in there, so I just use kraken now. Coinbase still uses AWS smtp servers to send account confirmation emails.

To verify that you have login access to the account on access from a new device. Think about how many levels of wrong that is.

They ban me my brother my gf and my dad for no reason! I've got over 20 people to get coinbase to. I still recommend them even after the fact.

I see this stuff and I have a really hard time believing it. Coinbase wants you as a customer so they can make money off you via fees. Why would they ban you for no reason?

It's in their company's best interest to not ban people who aren't problematic. They ban anyone who a gets a spam complaint on a referral code link b causes a complaint from a bank c bounces anything on a credit card or bank for what ever reason.

There are lots of reasons. I doubt it was no reason. I'm sure there's a reason. But how often do people come here and say they know why, or at least have any sort of clue?

Coinbases CS may or may not suck. I'm not going to defend it because CS's are typical meh to begin with. If your account is locked than Coinbase should be notifying you in writing either by email or snail mail immediately.

If they aren't and i don't think they are then they are wrong and should immediately address it. Same goes with investigations. Bank bitches about it?

Notify client, conduct investigation immediately, come to a solution. They shouldn't have people on ice for a month.

That's BS and I'm not going to defend that either. As for the rest of the "no reason" complaints we see, I suspect a lot of them do have reasons and a lot of the people who say they don't know why probably do.

They aren't telling us the reason because people aren't going to feel bad for them and support them. I managed an internet company with k users once.

Our margins were thin, and our risks were high every day. If there was a problem with the root servers, we got phone calls. If Verizon had a problem in New York The crazy thing is Our tech team literally had to help people restart their modems every week.

Meanwhile we would get hit with DDOS attacks, spam attacks, spam filters, vendors disappearing, every day. Coinbase has 50 times this problem.

I'm betting it's spam. Spam is very hard to deal with and getting false-flagged is easy. If you have 20 referrals If anyone complained to Coinbase And worse, if one of those referrals threatened to sue for any reason The fact of the matter is when you shut down peoples accounts that have monetary assists in them you are playing a game by not telling them why.

People are going to hound the shit out of a company who is holding their funds. It's one way to make the spam problem worse.

They are one of the most insanely heavy handed. They love to play games, and the prizes they hand out are fines and draconian regulation.

That said, I posted earlier that I suspect a lot of the people who have locked accounts have them locked for a very valid ToS violation, and these people are intentionally playing dumb about this.

They've onboarded billions and billions of dollars into the bitcoin ecosystem and market cap without being the slightest bit scammy or incompetent.

WTF have you done? Same, they won't even tell me why. Luckily at the time I had moved all of my coins. I have heard horror stories of people not being able to get to thousands of dollars worth of coins or USD because of their account being locked and super unhelpful customer service.

Yeah, no. Kraken and Bittrex from now on. Kraken verified me to level 3, 3 hours after registering. The reason they need you to use a "new email", is because they use AWS servers to send mail.

Gmail, curiously, has no problem with Coinbase, and allows these servers to continue sending mail even if they are blackholed on many, many lists.

Sign up with a Gmail email account and all will be forgiven. I thought we were all supposed to be serverless and cloudy now.

Where are you supposed to send mail from? When I last dealt with AWS is was bad practice. There are services that you can use to send out emails via API calls.

Ryzen rumoured numbers from the OP. Looks to max out at 3. Let's assume this is real, similar single core performance to Haswell.

Does getting 2 or 4 extra core justify new Motherboard and CPU? I guess single core performance would be a bit worse If we assume Haswell performance , but I would get a couple more cores, 3x threads and OC possibility.

Depends what you're doing with it. Gaming will probably see little to no difference having more cores, but will be improved with better IPC and higher OC potential.

Still TBD, check back in 7 days when official benchmarks are out. Really depends for me, on how long do you plan to use the system.

Games being the worse software out there tend to utilize more cores slower than other applications so a K would be the best performer for a year or 2.

The platform will be relevant for at least 3 to 4 years with subsequent iterations of Zen available on the same chipsets.

On the contrary socket supports up to 4 cores and 7xxx is the last iteration of CPUs it will be getting. I'm worried about Ryzen's single threaded performance, even my k 4.

My sentiments also. I have no brand loyalty. Its an older version of CPU-z without support of ryzen chips. So why it correctly identifys chips name?

The will be the same, but with a little less often?. Is it me or it seems to me that will yield the same as the k or slightly less?.

To someone who's new to PC's well, not to gaming, but to building them and looking at parts and stuff , what does this information I'm reading mean?

Tends to be more towards gaming. So single core is Haswell i5 Now remembering that the X was only at 3. Which would mean it could be even better.

Instructions per second would be IPS - or just "performance". IPC means instructions per clock and does not factor in the clock frequency.

But with the significant clock frequency advantage of Kaby Lake compared to the assumed freq. How do we know this has been done at stock frequency?

Seems like they posted their x review by accident too. Got to know the gaming performance of these Share the link.

Add a Comment. This could be worded better, or at least more intuitively. If IPC is good They fucking list the single thread score there.

I think he means "if it turns out to be on official benchmarks post NDA". Omg Haswell IPC. IPC is the average number of instructions executed for each clock IPC stays the same no matter the clock.

I say we go crazy! I'm crazy Processor man!! Look at me, super fast GHZ in my pants! Not a technical person.

But how does the current leak fare for AMD against Intel? HEDT won't cannablize the server market. They are two different buyers. I am pretty sure that Intel has woken up now They get their crap rekt by AMD if everything turns out like it looks.

But i do not think that intel will do much until they have a new arch. Everything looks like a great product when compared to the x's rice.

Long overdue. But my eyes are real. I just poked them and it hurt. Compared to consumer chips AMDs cache is fucking massive.

Looking at the clocks, they seem about correct to me. Ryzen has the same amount of L3 cache per cluster as the consumer i7 line, and double L2.

What's going on with that fucking bench. I think that bench is fucked. Makes no sense. Just because both are stock doesn't mean both are running the same frequency.

BRB buying more stock. Yeah, I was being sarcastic I am buying that stock tomorrow though. Tomorrow for me is when I wake up, and I am still up reading Ryzen leaks :P.

I believe you should be able to place an order that will go through soon after the market opens. The only way the stocks don't do well is something disrupting the fabs.

I have not seen a stock with such a low PEG. That category in a porn site on which you are not sure how you feel about. Well now I know what to search for.

This is a mostly-blank screen with no data at all My body is not ready. Edit: I wonder why some of the details are blocked out?

True, but PC gamers are no different than any other computer users. Also, eventually games will use more than 4 cores efficiently.

Heads up. They pulled the content from the page. Hopefully it will be good and at least earn my recommendation even if I won't upgrade yet.

Might be worth selling before it's value depreciates any further. That is correct, performance will almost certainly be better with mhz rams.

Ima wait a couple months for reviews so I can sort out the best components to get. Yes it is considering there is CL14 for a half way decent price.

Score comparison. Especially when those beastly Ryzen APU's come out. I would change the link to videocardz.

Time travelling benchmarks. Firestrike says It does when you consider the clock speed. If these OC well then it will be a stonker.

It is highly likely it was running at 3. Honestly it won't really matter at those speeds at least for gaming. The k gets so i think its doing pretty well.

I need what's best and future proofed for gaming. People are saying Haswell single-core performance.

How is that a fair comparison? Edit: to clarify, the name should not need an update. Multi core is just under Broadwell-E which got

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